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     Information about   ...........:Engines:.............

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  Posted by Scorpion on March 1, 2004

 Hi,
here you will learn a few things about Engines

Idea: Turbo Modified

Imagine a centrafugal supercharger, but with the exhaust impellar half of the turbo instead of the compressor half (IE take a turbo, throw out the compressor and attach a pulley with a one way bearing in its place

You'd need to have a wastegate on the turbine that was open based on some electronics that read the exhaust pressure and engine rpm. You'll get to a point when the turbo spools up and the rpm of the turbo pulley and SC/crank pulley are equal (the oneway bearing isn't slipping anymore). The belt will try to keep them all turning together at the same rpm. If the wastegate is left closed and the exhaust backpressure to climb the engine will either lose power due to the exhaust back-pressure (and eventually stall) or the belt would slip, heat up, and break prematurely. Luckily the electronics for this already exist as a programmable electronic boost controller... but instead of opening and closing the wastegate to controlling intake pressure they'd be controlling exhaust back pressure. 

Sort of like Turbo compounding

 

Idea: Turbocharger with seperate intake vanes

I have extensive experience with turbo charging and I have to say I've tried every trick I can think of to lower inlet temps. Most all turbochargers have inlet and exhaust housings only connected by a shaft and bearing housings, very little heat actually gets through this way. There seems to be very little reduction in inlet temps by wrapping the exhaust housing in a insulating glass fibre cloth for example. Heat soaking in to the inlet systen from the general engine bay has a greater effect on inlet temps, but becomes irrelevant when a engine is sucking in a great ammount of cold fresh air and there is plenty of cooling air flow through the engine bay.   

       But a longer shaft, and using two bearings (which would have less friction than one large set), would help to reduce heat conducted, and allow the temperature difference at each end to be greater without placing added stress on it. The turbine could run hotter, the compressor could be cooled somehow. So you may be on to something as yet wholy unbaked infact.   

       Bristolz and Cedar are right, the heating of inlet air comes from the compression. (OFTTOMH:) A pressure ratio of 2:1 will heat air at 20 C (67 F) to about 50 C (130 F). A good intercooler will take that down to 30 C, a air-to-water intercooler can take that lower if the water is nice n icey for example. A turbocharger flowing 300 cfm at 15psi takes around 20kw (27hp) of power to drive the compressor. An exhaust turbine might be 60% efficient at extracting otherwise wasted energy from exhaust, thus there's about 8kw lost in backpressure against the engine (interesting to note a equivelent supercharger would take that 20kw mechanicly. At 60-70% efficiency around 5kw is lost as heat which goes into the airflow, and 15kw goes into accelerating and pressurising the flow.

 

Idea: Turbo converted to Jet engine Supercharger

This idea takes one of these jets that run off the same fuel supply as the automotive engine and is mounted anywhere the exhaust gases can escape without burning the car or road up. Just like the t3-t4 turbo was created, select a turbo with a large compressor section to more than power the jet engine itself. On the compressor outlet, tee the pipe to go back to the burner section and the automotive intake. Now you have a supercharger that could potentially provide as much boost as your car can handle. The compressor and turbine would need to be sized correctly to provide enough intake pressure for the jet and your car engine. The only real downfalls are the size of the system and the extra fuel needed to power the jet, but wouldn't this be much cooler than just spraying nitrous at the dragstrip like everyone else?! I think the size can be made as compact as a typical roots blower that so many people use for drag racing. Starting the jet usually requires something to spin the turbine. Routing the car motor's exhaust through the burner could initally spin the turbine which may be worth trying.

 

Idea: Rotary engine side by side

Brief Forward: One of the great benefits of rotary engines is they can output incredible power from a very small engine block. This small size allows carmakers to put the engine in an optimal position: closer to the car's center. Regular engines can add extra pistons to increase displacement and rotary engines can add extra rotors. But by adding extra rotors the engine block becomes too long and the advantage of putting weight towards the car's center is lost.

Idea: My idea is to take two twin rotor engine blocks and put them side by side connected by gears to the flywheel. This would keep the weight of the engine toward the center of the car and double the displacement. If two naturally aspirated Mazda Renesis motors were put side by side, their power would be just under 500 bhp. Turbocharged, they could reach over 600 bhp. Again using the Renesis as an example, this side-by-side engine would weigh less than 400lbs. By comparison, a Porsche 911 Turbo engine weighs about 450 lbs and puts out 420bhp.

~*~Remberance:

Just remember that all of these are ideas, and not from some hightec machanics book alright?

I will add more additions to this section soon.

-Scorpion







 
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